Tuesday 20 November 2012

A Heated Debate

More heat than light being shed by the Telegraph, at any rate.

Apparently MPs are threatening the C of E with changing equality legislation if the vote on women bishops is not passed. Presumably, they will still do so even if the C of E does pass the measure? After all, they will still have those pesky Catholics, Easter Orthodox and Muslims to sort out? Or is the suggestion that only the Church of England nseeds fixing?

Which brings us to to the idea that, if the vote goes against, it threatens the concept of the Establishment. Well, call it just me, but it almost seems that to get rid of 1600 years of Church and State being yoked together, it would be worth the "no" vote. Just for as long as it took to get Establishment knocked on the head - the Synod could always vote "yes" afterwards.

And finally there's the suggestion that if the evangelicals who are anti-women leave, the Kingdom of God will continue - just not the Church of England. Which sounds eminently likely and, in a holy kind of way, pragmatic. So what was all the fuss about, again?

Come on, just get it sorted.

11 comments :

  1. It will continue; it just,won't be a church :-(

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  2. It will continue; it just,won't be a church :-(

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  3. It will continue; it just,won't be a church :-(

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  4. It will continue; it just,won't be a church :-(

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  5. What I tell you FOUR times is true...

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  6. Perhaps Archimandrite Simon is testing the voting system before lunch ....

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  7. I agree CE, you'd have also thought the 1000 year old lessons of a certain King Cnut would help inform the likely outcome of decisions based on the beliefs of (chosen) men versus the reality of nature, apparently not yet. With such a difference of philosophy between the two it seems like a good time to properly separate Church and state just as other democratic countries (i.e. America) did hundreds of years ago.

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    1. Do you mean e.g. America or is there just the one that did that? However, grammatical pedantry aside, you're right.

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    2. Sorry AE (bad edit), my original draft had a long list including most European countries, Scandinavian countries, India, China etc. etc. but not wanting to labour the point I shortened it to the most notable example.

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  8. I think my good friend the Archimandrite is suffering from a repeating Android. They have a habit of doing the kind of thing.

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  9. And now? Repeating android? That would be a generous explanation.

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